This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Minister Xu Xueyuan, Deputy Chief of Mission at the PRC embassy in Washington, D.C.
A few words about the process, in the interest of transparency:
Minister Xuโs team did request questions in advance, and they were all accepted without alteration except to suggest that two questions, both related to public diplomacy efforts, be combined. Questions on subjects like Taiwan, Xinjiang, and Chinaโs Zero-COVID policy were all accepted without even any suggestions on changes of wording. Kaiser was also able to follow up on questions without any objection at all.
Where Minister Xu cited numbers and made factual claims, we made a good faith effort to check them โ for example, on the number of acres in the recent offshore oil lease approvals made by the Biden administration.
Doubtless, there will be listeners who will wish that Kaiser had been more forceful, and there may be some who believe he was perhaps tooย forceful. Sinica is not a โgotchaโ show and never has been, and we believe there is value in hearing the perspectives of a ranking Chinese diplomat, and we hope you agree that the interview is very much worth listening to.
The interview has only been edited only for clarity and concision โ taking out filler or hesitation words and pick-ups.
2:56 โ Does the Biden administrationโs China policy diverge from Trump’s?
8:29 โ Chinaโs role in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization
15:09 โ Chinaโs position on the Ukraine war
19:21 โ How the Ukraine conflict factors into Beijingโs decision-making on Taiwan
23:11 โ The diminishing appeal of โone country, two systemsโ
29:56 โ Beijingโs suspension of climate talks after the Pelosi visit
38:20 โ U.S.-China coordination on alleviating global economic issues
46:37 โ The possibility of diplomatic concessions to improve relations
52:29 โThe decline in people-to-people exchange between China and the U.S.
1:00:27 โ Chinaโs “dynamic zero-COVID” policy
1:08:16 โ The 20th Party Congressโ impact on U.S.-China relations
1:10:51 โ Considering the Xinjiang issue from the American perspective
1:20:10 โ The unintended consequences of wolf-warrior diplomacy
1:24:45 โ Differing views on China in the Global South vs. Global North
A full transcript of this interview is available at thechinaproject.com.