Legendary diplomat Chas W. Freeman, Jr., on U.S.-China strategy and history: Part 1

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Few living figures of U.S.-China relations are as legendary as Charles W. “Chas” Freeman, Jr., the chief interpreter for Richard Nixon’s world-changing 1972 visit to China, and a former top American diplomat in countries such as China and Saudi Arabia. On this, the first of a three-part Sinica interview (see part 2 here, and part 3 here), Chas Freeman discusses grand strategy — and the current “strategy deficit” — in U.S.-China relations, as well as technological innovation, nationalism, xenophobia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and many other topics.

Recommendations: While waiting for the next part of the interview, check out Ambassador Freeman’s book, Interesting Times: China, America, and the Shifting Balance of Prestige, and also this extensive 1995 interview with Ambassador Freeman done by Charles Stewart Kennedy for The Foreign Affairs Oral History Collection of the Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training.

This podcast was edited and produced by Kaiser Kuo and Jason MacRonald.