Podcasting the Prince: Sue-Lin Wong of the Economist on her Xi Jinping podcast

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This week on Sinica, Kaiser and Jeremy are joined by Sue-Lin Wong, who until recently covered China for the Economist and hosted an eight-part podcast series all about Xi Jinping called The Prince. The podcast features interviews with a wide range of China-watchers, peers of Xi, dissidents, and many others who offer insights into what makes Xi tick.

3:38 โ€“ Reason behind naming the podcast โ€œthe Princeโ€

5:53 โ€“ Differences between traditional journalism and podcasting

9:52 โ€“ The role of Sue-Linโ€™s mother in the podcast

13:37 โ€“ How corruption influenced Xiโ€™s leadership style

19:29 โ€“ Identifying Xiโ€™s greatest anxieties: party in-fighting, the collapse of the USSR

22:48 โ€“ Early signs of Xiโ€™s ideological underpinnings most China watchers missed

29:33 โ€“ Did the CCPโ€™s internal crisis make Xiโ€™s rise inevitable?

32:57 โ€“ Is Xi Jinping the most powerful man in the world?

37:12 โ€“ Reframing the engagement debate after Xiโ€™s administration

41:51 โ€“ David Rennieโ€™s view on China: โ€œa giant utilitarian experimentโ€

46:45 โ€“ Key insights on Xi that listeners of the Prince should walk away with

52:16 โ€“ How Sue-Lin would brief an American policymaker on Xi Jinpingโ€™s main motivations

A transcript of this episode is available at TheChinaProject.com.

Recommendations:

Jeremy โ€“ A Matter of Perspective: Parsing Insider Accounts of Xi Jinping Ahead of the 20th Party Congress, an article on The China Story written by Neil Thomas

Sue-Lin โ€“ Race to the Galaxy, a two-player board game

Kaiser โ€“ Interview with the Vampire, a new AMC TV series