Ryan Hass on his new book, ‘Stronger’


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This week on Sinica, Kaiser welcomes back Ryan Hass, the Michael H. Armacost Chair at the John L. Thornton China Center at the Brookings Institute, a senior adviser at the Scowcroft Group and McLarty Associates, and the China Director at the National Security Council during the second Obama administration. Ryan’s new book, Stronger: Adapting America’s China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence, lays out a great approach to right-sizing the challenges that China poses in the decades ahead and identifies a set of sensible U.S. responses: running faster instead of trying to trip the other guy, regaining confidence, avoiding declinism and defeatism, and not turning China into an enemy. 

4:42: What’s changed after Trump

25:37: How interdependence with China raises American interests

29:31: A firm and steady approach to America’s foremost competitor

43:54: Risk reduction and crisis management vis-à-vis China


Ryan: Any publication by William J. Burns, the current director of the CIA. 

Kaiser: Works by Susan B. Glasser, particularly those narrated by Julia Whelan.