This week on Sinica, Kaiser is joined by Susan Thornton, former Acting Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs and a veteran diplomat. Susan makes a compelling case for the importance of diplomacy in the U.S.-China relationship — and the alarming absence of real diplomacy over the last several years. She helps interpret American and Chinese diplomatic engagements over the Russo-Ukrainian War and assesses the prospects for China actually playing a role in negotiating an end to the conflict.
3:42 – What diplomacy is really all about, and why it’s so conspicuously absent
7:32 – Does it make sense for the U.S. to expect Beijing to outright condemn the invasion?
10:40 – What should the U.S. actually expect from China?
13:55 – Is China willing and able to play a meaningful role as a mediator?
17:06 – What’s up with the leaks?
21:32 – Reading the readouts
28:20 – What is China’s optimal endgame here?
32:06 – China’s “southern strategy”
34:50 – Do upcoming U.S. midterm and presidential elections matter to Beijing?
41:29 – What are we missing when we talk about China’s perspectives on the war?
A full transcript of this interview is available on TheChinaProject.com
Recommendations:
Susan: Butter Lamp, a short film directed by Hu Wei, nominated for Best Live Action Short at the 87th Academy Awards
Kaiser: Birria Tacos. Here’s a good recipe! (These should come with a doctor’s warning)
